Go Ned!!!

Dors, I second that!

I hope this thing is settled soon. I can't face another 2AM night.

Thanks, TJ...

Watch Connecticut results here

There is a lot of congestion but hopefully you can get through. Otherwise the Intrepid Rose is posting them too.

Posted by Cyn_NY on August 8, 2006 at 08:56 PM I hope this thing is settled soon. I can't face another 2AM night.

Me too. I have to be to work early tomorrow. Talk about bad scheduling. Of course, my bosses are Republicans. :)

Good Evening, Everyone!

What a pleasant evening for CT.

I am so glad Pam invited me to support Lamont.

:)

I look forward to finally reading about Ned on this site tomorrow.

I wonder if Condi Lies-A-Lot will get the assignment to break the news to her husband?

ah, what a interesting day tomorrow will be with all those Democrats that put their two cents in on this race having to decide if they will support the Democrat or the sore loser independent. :)

Dors, my boss is a very liberal dem, but not so much involved as I. However, I have republican relatives, which is stressful enough.

17% in a Lamont is holding!

Posted by Paul on August 8, 2006 at 08:59 PM

Well if the tabloids are correct, she will just have to roll over to tell him.

George W. Bush must be regretting he kissed Joe

Precincts Reporting: 126 of 757 - 17%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 22,898 44%
Ned Lamont 29,463 56%

lololol

Does anybody have a NO BUSH bumper sticker for sale?

Posted by SandyH on August 8, 2006 at 08:43 PM

"I pledge to explore and take into account the social and environmental consequences of any job I consider and will try to improve these aspects of any organizations for which I work."
hey people...are we all excited or what?

sandy...i'm not sure how many other colleges and universities have a similar sort of pledge for its graduates, but i think we could use a lot more of them besides this one at humboldt state university...especially for journalism graduates!

boiler man

WHERE IS CHUCK????

We need him here tonight.

Hello, friends in, and outside, CT. I left my editor a message to vote. He got in from Guatemala late last night but hopefully got himself out today for Ned.

You guys, please let me know about the Great Northeastern Meet-up. I've been quite busy this spring and summer but expect to have more time once my next book project is finished and the kids are off at school in the fall.

Lizzy, sure wish Jen was here. It feels a bit like 04 but hopefully with happier results. :)

did anyone pick up on dpd's last post to the previous thread?...

UUUHHHH OHHHHH!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>BREAKING NEWS!! >>>>>>>>>>>

The Conn. Sec of State official voting website HAS CRASHED!!!!!

(OBVIOUSLY THE LIEBERTHUGS ARE BEHINS THIS).

Can we say "Jean Schmidt" again? Remember, the Ohio SoS site pulled that same stunt and Mean Jean's loss suddenly became A WIN.

(msnbc JUST ANNOUNCED IT).

Posted by DPD on August 8, 2006 at 09:00 PM

Reporting: 184 of 757 - 24%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 32,575 45%
Ned Lamont 40,044 55%

Kristen, I sent them e's

Waving to Lyn LTNS.

Took a blt break. The only thing that bothers me is the precentage is going down. It's still 10 points, but dwindling.

Lyn, we would certainly love to have you at our meetup!

Precincts Reporting: 287 of 757 - 38%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 53,159 46%
Ned Lamont 61,449 54%

LTNS, I know. Sorry. I'm going to have to stop disappearing like this.

Do you have a date and place for the meetup yet?

well, apparently the "breaking news" is no big deal, but here's what the cn sos election results page says at the moment.

US Senator Election result
Summarized By
Congressional District (Temporarily Unavailable)
County
Town

boiler man

Local news
Correction -- Lieberman won the district in which he grew up in Stamford -- no report on his New Haven residence district

Forget what we said earlier about this being quick -- all great plans of mice and men....

52% DeStefano
48% Malloy governor

Present here (not in the room, though): Maxine Waters, Jessie Jackson, Lowell Weicker

Ned is upstairs in the house

54000 Lamont
46000 Lieberman
posted by B.A. at 9:22 PM 1 comments

So many sites are crashing...

Precincts Reporting: 373 of 757 - 49%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 64,056 48%
Ned Lamont 69,466 52%

With almost 1/2 the precincts reporting 49%

Ned 52% 69,466
Joe 48% 64,056

Posted by dk2 on August 8, 2006 at 09:30 PM

Jinx :)

Tracy, go to Night Bird's Fountain. Rose is from CT and is getting news from her state.

I think Rose is getting them from WTNH and their site just stopped responding for me.

cnn saying lieberman has pulled ahead but votes dont show that yet

Precincts Reporting: 50.27%

# votes %
Lieberman 64,700 47.87
Lamont 70,444 52.13

Go Lamont!

Hey, for all you regulars, where is Jen?

Posted by rjsnj on August 8, 2006 at 09:35 PM

:)

Good news.

isn't there someone at the place where these votes are being tallied who has a cell phone?

So many sites are crashing...

Something is seriously going on that they are all crashing. Alittle disturbing.

i can't take it.

Posted by Cyn_NY on August 8, 2006 at 09:36 PM Hey, for all you regulars, where is Jen?

Don't know, Cyn. I'll email her.

I liked the 60/40 split better.

isn't there one of those government sits that gives the numbers like we had for busby and reed and all?

Posted by gregg on August 8, 2006 at 09:38 PM

*comfort*

And... For all you Horse Racing fans...

"They're heading into the home stretch, Here comes the Dark Horse Spinning Out Of the Turn, and it looks like...."

(The late and GREAT Phil Georgeffe)

Y-O-Y is Scumboro having Foghorn on talking about Mel Gibson??

Isn't there something else they can be chatting about? Like something having to do with THE FUTURE OF THE U.S. of A.?

It is very interesting that the figures are slowing changing to support Joe.

I know that a change like that is possible.

However, this is just a bit TOO much like November 2004.

Does anybody have a NO BUSH bumper sticker for sale?Posted by Paul on August 8, 2006 at 09:04 PM

No I don't have that one Paul but I just put

"I never Thought I'd Miss Nixon" bumper sticker in my car....

I wish the networks would keep on the Lamont story - we need to know!

Either can I, gregg; it's getting too close for comfort. Shades of 2000 and 2004

Posted by gregg on August 8, 2006 at 09:38 PM i can't take it.

Yea - that's the crappy thing about caring. :)

Lizzy, these sites are taking a huge load of hits, there will be a point were they can't accomodate all the traffic. The link above is working but it is slow to respond.

Precincts Reporting: 373 of 757 - 49%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 64,056 48%
Ned Lamont 69,466 52%

SOMEONE GO GRAP A VOTING MACINE AND TAKE IT APART!

still 52/48 with 55% reporting.

420 of 757 precincts - 55%

Joe Lieberman X 72,243 48%
Ned Lamont 78,780 52%

Posted by Kristen on August 8, 2006 at 09:43 PM

:)

Anyone have Air America on - what are they reporting?

DailyKos gabbly is on fire
fyi

Per Rose:

56% Lamont ahead 52-48

Folks from CT should know if this is a normal pattern. When I worked elections in Wisconsin, we all knew which precincts reported first, and how they'd break was pretty much indicative of the final tally. And where are the exit polls?

if you go to the hartford courant site and click on all campaigns you get a pretty good update. with 56% in lamont is up by 4%.

Per Rose:

57% Lamont ahead 52-48
We are holding ground!!

actually he is up by 4.34%

64.71% in lamont by 3.2%

if the %change stays fairly constant per %increase reporting...then i'd agree something smells...anybody know how this projects to 100%?

Kos as logged about over 1,000 comments in less than an hour. :)

Livebloggimg from Lamont headquarters. I just caught this:

Tim Tagaris chatting with someone. The bloggers' room has largely emptied out for now - CT Blogger is the only person I recognize here right now.

MAJOR UPDATE: 80% OF THE VOTE COUNTED: 117K VOTES FOR LAMONT, 103K FOR LIEBERMAN. Someone calculate this! CT Blogger is saying, "It's over." Let's wait and see.

Looks like it's gonna be a LONG night after all.

Precincts Reporting: 518 of 757 - 68%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 89,226 48%
Ned Lamont 96,364 52%

Greg, I'm getting 68% in and still a 4% split.

http://wtic.com/index.php

Results minute by minute........

where is that 80% figure coming from? i am staying with the hartford paper.

I wish Tim had done a live broadcast from there.

52% Lamont 48% Lieberman.....still holding

liveblogging from lamont headquarters:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/8/20847/46070

what is the amount needed to avoid an automatic recount?

71.79% in lamont by 3.22%

who's got the spreadsheet to work this thing out??

Hey guys! What's the good Ned word?

{{{{{JEN}}}}} we were missing you! Ned still has a lead although it is smaller than we would like.

howdy all...69% in, still up by 4. my friend Nancy Cohen of NPR is reporting from the Lamont HQ on radio!

hey jen!...is it really you?

Air America reporting - 72% reporting 51%/48% Lamont

Lieberman has personally enabled the loss of thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

Maybe God does answer prayers.

Posted by bb on August 8, 2006 at 09:54 PM

Hey {{bb & Jen}}

73.66% in lamont by 3.46%

this thing is sort of like docking the space shuttle to the space station...what's the closing rate???

Good god, this is like watching grass grow!

Hello to Jen and bb!

Don't know where they got the 80% reporting number from - it was on the liveblogging from Lamont's HQ journal.

Most sources still show a 4% lead with at least 70& reporting.

Precincts Reporting: 565 of 757 - 75%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 99,940 48%
Ned Lamont 106,996 52%

boilerman, when someone hears BOOM!

HI, bb & Jen!!!!

Hillary Clinton will be the last fence-sitter in the country.

--- Chris Matthews

for what it is worth the hartford courant is showing new haven to lamont by 40 points with 35 of 45 polling places reporting and no figures for hartford yet....sooo....

rjsnj, they are rounding up.

yes, c'est moi, 1234. wow, almost {{{all my fave peeps}}} are here! i'm noivous! i want ned to win desperately.

Dean-Democrats ROCK! GO LAMONT! -- Joltn' Joe better fall in line behind the winner - if he's a real Democrat.

I hope Mrs. Clinton is taking notes - she could go down just like Joe....

Posted by DPD on August 8, 2006 at 09:59 PM

thanks, dpd...

at least i'm not standing in Copley Sq. with the rain falling on my head like that horrible night a few Novembers ago.

god it's so good see you guys! i really missed you all.

This primary thing is nerve wrecking! Is anyone else having trouble getting on DailyKos or MyDD? Something seems fishy; I can't get onto either of those websites, and this is a fairly important night to do so.

no figures for hartford yet....sooo....

****

I would imagine that hartford will take the longest to count.

If Tweety wants to talk about "fence" sitters, I'd like to ask him about his not so recent carreer move of having Bush sit on HIS FACE!

76.87% in lamont by 3.52%

C-span is on live right now

Chris, MY DD has been down most of the day.

Rose:

77% Lamont ahead 51.8-48.2

dpd its nice to see you up, about and insane. bb let's not drag those old things down out of the attic please....i still got my fifty dollar bottle of champagne in the fridge but it will wait for november.

Bon soir, Mme Jenny

:)

Posted by JJNY4Dean on August 8, 2006 at 10:01 PM Dean-Democrats ROCK! GO LAMONT! -- Joltn' Joe better fall in line behind the winner - if he's a real Democrat.

PSI fighter live blogging on Dkos say prominent CT Republicans will endorse Joe tomorrow as an Independent.

{{{Jen!}}}

Posted by Chris on August 8, 2006 at 10:02 PM

I was able to get on not too long ago, but it took awhile.

i think the hartford courant is the best bet.

{{{Jen}}}

They're saying Hartford will be key...

79% counted and no change

gregg, I got me a bottle of the bubbly left over from then too. Tattingers, I think it's spelled.

kos is overloaded with people trying to log on.

tonight is an important night for America

Eyewitness News 3 is now saying a Lamont win...

79% counted and no change
***

That 80% counted with 4% lead is looking right ... still don't know where it came from other than the person liveblogging at Lamont's HQ.

Precincts Reporting: 608 of 757 - 80%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 108,683 48%
Ned Lamont 116,387 52%

DailyKos is undergoing some maintenance right now.
It'll be back up just as soon as possible.
Thanks for your patience.

I'm doing some db maintenance tonight, so we'll be down for a little while. Shouldn't be too long at all. --ct

Per Rose:

80% Lamont ahead 51.8-48.2

radio saying 52/48 ain't enough to get joe out of the general election

79.95% in lamont by 3.5%

kathy if hartford is key i think that is good news because lamont took the other big city new haven by 40 points with most of the precincts in .

Wow

this blog is on fire

Posted by Benji on August 8, 2006 at 10:08 PM

hey, benji...if any troll types show up i hope you give the boot immediately! they don't need any piece of this tonight.

boiler man

Posted by Benji on August 8, 2006 at 10:09 PM

I think I'll take the opportunity to do some db maintenance myself.

SORRY my mistake lamont took new haven by about 5 points.

I am not calling it, til all the votes are counted.

Posted by bb on August 8, 2006 at 10:02 PM
this feels ever so much better, doesn't it? i loved Uncle Colin. author, author!!

come on Harford C-span went to call in - the first caller from Boston said she was a Republican and gave to Joe - she siad she was horrified that the people of CT would turn their back on such a great man - --- gag

Evenin, Dems. Just dropping by to congratulate everyone that worked so hard in Conn, espescially Miss Pam, who I adore. Win, lose, or draw, you have much to be proud of!

They're saying Hartford will be key...
****

Supposedly, the turnout in the big cities was lighter than expected ...

keep our fingers crossed. I won't believe anything until one of them concedes.

{{{everyone}}} oh please let it be true kathy!

Oh, Firedog Lake out too. Sigh

I think I'll take the opportunity to do some db maintenance myself.
Posted by dorsano on August 8, 2006 at 10:12 PM

so the discipline worked, did it?

bb, if Joe loses, I am sure the Democratic party will make it clear to him that the fat lady has sung.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE ENERGIZED

81.28 % in lamont by 3.42

Jen - it's good getting back on the blog isn't it?

could it be the pugs are wanting to use losers to split the votes in november? i wonder how many others they'll offer their support to?

boiler man

Hey Mack! It's good to see you!

Hi Mack,

it crashed for me about two hours ago. everyone is online tonight...broadband isn't broad enough...

great to see you, buddy!

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:13 PM

WIN, LOSE OR DRAW

THE DEMOCRATS ARE ON FIRE!

mack-a-roon, good to see you big dog.

KOS IS UP AND RUNNING

KOS IS REPORTING 7000+ LEAD FOR LAMONT

51.7 - 48.2

From the liveblogging thread:

Update: Don't know total %, but its 123K for Ned, 109 for Lieberman. Roughly a 6% point lead, just like the last Q-poll said.

****

If so, I believe it is a Lamont win!!! Word has it that Lamont will be speaking within the hour.
Hang on!!!!!

Lamont 52 -48

hey Mack! How's T.I.T.S.?

More music while we wait.

Big Things to Do

What-up exactly? I read today that KOS spends 7k a MONTH for bandwidth...That kinda dough ought to keep you up if every yellow dog, blue dog, and zell/joe dog in the country hits your site. 7 thousand! Obscene...

82.62% in lamont by 3.66%

hi Fade. this is like old home week on the blog.

81% 52/48

Mack's here too :)

((Mack)) Good to see ya!!

Precincts Reporting: 625 of 757 - 83%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 111,887 48%
Ned Lamont 120,616 52%

!!

It's like old school reunion time.

Where is JIM S?

So good to see you Mack, you just missed Lyn.

Looking good for the Netroots, I hope.

Jen, hey girl! I know that announcement was kinda lame, but it made me laugh, and Gregg was all, "oh, good luck on your new thing". LOL. Nobody reads shit anymore...

Congratulations, Liberal Democrats!!!

The first sign of light is showing at the end of the tunnel.

Amen.

Hi everybody! From my professional experience in elections over the past 15 years, usually results stay consistant.

Let me go get my jammies on so I can be ready to dance in them!

WFSB is calling 52 / 48 LAMONT (C-Span just now) 84% in.

Matthew just emailed. He's in a nail biter at the campaign (Malloy Destefano) has been holding at 50/50!

Hi Mack! Hi BB!

83.56% in lamont up by 3.76%

Hey Lizzie, I bet you've been all over this thing in Conn. Sending lucky vibes your way.

Gig, my special frauline!

Hey Tony. KInda cool to check in on Party Night!

Paul - yep - it's feels good to be a Democrat tonight - A LIBERAL Democrat!

Posted by fade2bluz on August 8, 2006 at 10:14 PM so the discipline worked, did it?

I doubt it. :)

Bruno, I can't get any of the songs to play.

Gonna take a stab.

Esmerelda=Jackie?

don't forget to watch for the 'worm'....

Butters will be "dancing in her jammies"...

AND {{PAM}} will be "doing the worm on the floor" (tequila?)

i read it turkey man but i was in a hurry. what like you have had much time for your old homely home boys?

still waiting for Hartford

Fade, DPD, anyone else I may have missed, good to be here for the big win, so glad that all of you are still hard at it in here. Satan around?

Jinx, boilerman

:)

HI, I'm still here. My husband's pleased with me because this site and Night Bird's Fountain have the fastest results. He's on the New York Times site, which has given him nothing.

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:23 PM Hey Tony. KInda cool to check in on Party Night!

We don't need an excuse to party, Rick but we deserve a big win.

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on August 8, 2006 at 10:23 PM

yes indeed! it certainly does.

Shoot guys, everyone is here. This is great.

Hugs to BB.

WHERE IS MARSH???? Can someone email him?

Beantown in the house? What about Kristen? Did I see you as well? Anyway, I just wanted to apologize for hacking Lieberman's site, I just got too excited! Sorry everybody...

i thought it was a riot, {{{Mack}}}. lol HEy, have you heard from Jim S? I miss that ole guy.

it feels great Kathy!

ok saying 'everyone' isn't cutting it for me. love you {{{Paul, Kathy, Kristen, Lizzy, DPD, Dors, Lyn, BB, Gregg, DK2, Gig, Rose, Boilerman, RJSNJ, Fade, Lavender, Benji, Cyn, Chuck}}}

Posted by bb on August 8, 2006 at 10:19 PM
it does, and it feels good. we have an inaugural ball coming, too. maybe this is the beginning...

I doubt it. :)
Posted by dorsano on August 8, 2006 at 10:24 PM

well, i'm always available for disciplinary referrals, when gregg's ice cream behavior modification is ineffective.

Posted by GiG on August 8, 2006 at 10:20 PM

GiG!! I missed your entrance. How did the primaries in GA go?

Posted by DPD on August 8, 2006 at 10:26 PM

bread and butter, bread and butter...

All I can say is if we are this excited for a primary, what is November going to be like? Is everyone planning on taking the day off and working the polls?

Sorry everybody...

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

Remember that "We're sorry" website from overseas?

Hey Mack, I'm here and glad to see you back! Even if it only for the Lamont Party. :)

we haven't won till we won. bridgeport is the biggest city and it is going for lieberman by about 2 points with 80% in. new haven in next biggest and it is going for lamont by about 3 point with 90 % in...hartford is the same size as new haven....so we are close but don't do the worm yet , get the fucker in the bag first.

We gonna have a sleepless night because of GOOD news for a change? It's about time!

Posted by jen on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

big {{{jen}}} back to ya!

I'll have to tell hubby. I don't just get results here; I get love.

Good evening, dears. Got here soon as I could!
Special hugs to Jen and bb, who weren't here earlier in the afternoon when I dropped in. Mr. G and I are hanging on here in Texas waiting for the news from CT! Yahoo is jammed.

Posted by PeppermintLizzy on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM This is great.

Yea - this is pretty nice. And if Tracy puts up a thread when all the votes are counted it will be even nicer.

Satan is ALWAYS around, but is actually back to the benign professorial personna, and is actually as funny as ALF most of the time.

Let's hope it continues.

Posted by Chris on August 8, 2006 at 10:29 PM

Yes, and quite possibly the day after to sleep off the celebratory hangover.

Chris 0 I have the day off and will be working at our headquarters which by the way is opening in Goshen Indiana on Sat...

shit this is like squeezing out the last down card in seven card high/low...

83.82% in lamont by 3.8%

I think I am going to take a personal day in November as well. Here in Florida, Davis needs all the help he can get in his bid for governorship against your typical run-of-the-mill arrogant and slimy republican Charlie Christ.

This night brings back memories of November two years ago, in Cincy with Jen right after the election. Good Lord, what a sad time that was!
Has the tide finally turned???

Seen on a bumper sticker on my campus this summer (not mine, but wish it was):
Practice Abstinence: No Mo' Bush, No Mo' Dick!
Yeh!

Posted by fade2bluz on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM well, i'm always available for disciplinary referrals

I'll strive to be on my best behavior but it's comforting to know that if I stumble, I have a path to redemption.

give mack a chair by the windows so he can watch the power ball results along with the election returns:

one for my baby and one more for mack

Ah, Gregg, we waitin on the river?

Posted by jen on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

{{Jenny}}

from CT Bob:

The Last Waiting Game

Well, the numbers haven't changed here officially on the tote board, but word is leaking out, not for attribution, that considering what's in and from which precincts, we.won.

that's we dot won....Lamont is expected at the podium soon, and Drudge reports that Lieberloser lost the primary.

premature, but pary on, prematurely, i say

86.63% in lamont by 3.66%

Mom - I remeber how sad it was and for days afterwards... but we keep blogging and fighting and that's what it's all about.. it was at that time I decided to become involved and I'm so glad I did!

From the liveblogging thread:

Chris Bowers, hard at work.

The big screen in the ballroom still shows a 14K lead for Lamont, 124K to 110K. Waiting for final results...

Update: I just heard that Lamont has won every precinct in Hartford. Again, take it for what you will.

I've decided to name the now 3 month old foal. I think Ned suits him.

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:24 PM

That's Ms. Jac kay to you.

this i hope will be the promise of november...

A place to stay
enough to eat
somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street
where you can speak out loud
about your doubts and fears
and what's more no-one ever disappears
you never hear their standard issue kicking in your door
you can relax on both sides of the tracks
and maniacs don't blow holes in bandsmen by remote control
and everyone has recourse to the law
and no-one kills the children anymore
and no-one kills the children anymore

boiler man

i used to live in kent conn. it went for lamont by 40 points. i guess the stuff i put in the resevoir worked.

we waitin on the river?

And river runs for the righteous. Mack

87% in Lamont ahead by 9,000

Someone already took StayFresh.

{{{momma!!}}

Posted by jen on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

{{{{jen}}}} Back at ya!

I am so excited but it is so close! Still holding: 51.82 Lamont 48.2 Lieberman.....

Posted by Kristen on August 8, 2006 at 10:24 PM

I tried them on two computers and they both worked. Maybe I'm losing my touch.

Chris, good for you taking the personal day for the November election. Wish all good Democrats could do that. Everyone who can, MUST. It's going to take boots on the ground from now till November. Dang, I feel some energy coming back.

Somebody mentioned earlier, Beantown I think, that it's like old home week on the blog tonight. Sure enough! I see old friends and new here. I was feeling so low, but I'm beginning to think this old gray mare has one more good uphill pull left in her :-D

That's Ms. Jac kay to you.

Posted by Esmeralda on August 8, 2006 at 10:39 PM

Sorry sweetie, you'll always be waffle House Jack to me. Jackie for short. Never cared for Butters...

We weren't sad for days. We were sad for MONTHS!!

Precincts Reporting: 651 of 757 - 86%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 116,060 48%
Ned Lamont 124,940 52%

I keep thinking about this song right now..

I am a Patriot
And I love my country

la la la la la

87.03% in lamont by 3.68%

Posted by MommaG on August 8, 2006 at 10:36 PM

{{{MommaG}}} City boys don't know what nibby means. ;p

Channel 8 CT is back up.

satellite would be nice right now...sure wish i had something more than over the air local tv.

it's probably just me Bruno.

How did the primaries in GA go?

Posted by dorsano on August 8, 2006 at 10:29 PM

The run offs did ok, the evil commissioner in my county is beat (can't take no credit there, not my district) and statewide it went ok and it looks like the 4th district in GA (McKinney verses Johnson) spoke their mind, Johnson is in the lead..

Now back to CT :)

Precincts Reporting: 87.03%

# votes %
Lieberman 116,060 48.16
Lamont 124,940 51.84

{{{Lyn!}}}

(August 08, 2006 -- 10:29 PM EST // link)

Still tight. But not a lot of movement. And Joe's running out of votes to come back. With 83.56% of precincts reporting it's 51.88% Lamont to 48.12% for Lieberman.
-- Josh Marshall

Hi, sweet Jen!
Greetings to Esmeralda too (FABULOUS news about Ney biting the donkey butt in your corner of Ohio!!!).

we gotta keep pullin momma till they send us to the glue factory...so the kids will know what to do when their turn comes.

Butters will be "dancing in her jammies"...Posted by DPD on August 8, 2006 at 10:25 PM

Chris Matthews was talking about the Lieberman/Lamont race. He called the bloggers the "pajamahadeen" like the "mujahadeen militia"

Pajamahadeen

Kathy, I truly love that song by Jackson Browne.

I was walking with my brother
And he wondered what's on my mind
I said what I believe in my soul
Ain't what I see with my eyes
And we can't turn our backs this time

Never cared for Butters...

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:42 PM

Creamy wholesome goodness!

lol Mack! Ned Roots. Where's my picture?

Gig, poor McKinney, she's eccentric as hell, but her positions seem rock solid. Her Dad was a hoot.

Posted by Esmeralda on August 8, 2006 at 10:43 PM

Hi {{Jacque}}

89.17% in lamont by 3.2%

I must be nervous because I feel like eating a peanut butter sandwich with potato chips stuffed in between and washing it all down with a beer...

I'll give it ten more minutes then I need to go to bed...

by kos
Tue Aug 08, 2006 at 07:40:18 PM PDT
Man, this thing won't end! I don't know if my nerves can handle this much longer...

Precincts Reporting: 89.17%

# votes %
Lieberman 119,867 48.40
Lamont 127,867 51.60

Most sources still showing a 4% lead for Lamont with at least 87% votes counted. Final stretch ... hang on, hang on !!!

Posted by Domingo on August 8, 2006 at 10:45 PM

he must've thought it was more cute that dumb!

Posted by MisterMack on August 8, 2006 at 10:39 PM I've decided to name the now 3 month old foal. I think Ned suits him.

Great idea, Mack. It sounds right on to me.

Precincts Reporting: 696 of 757 - 92%
Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Joe Lieberman X 125,427 48%
Ned Lamont 133,801 52%

Liz - I get tears in my eyes everytime I hear it..I think I'll play it tomorrow onmy way to work. Thanks Lizzy!

93%: 52/48

same here {{{lav!}}}

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on August 8, 2006 at 10:47 PM I'll give it ten more minutes then I need to go to bed...

That's what I've been saying to myself for the last 1/2 hour.

93% in.........

Lamont: 133,801
Lieberman: 125,425

Rose, you're right about being sad for months-- years even! But finally the dark clouds seem to be parting.

Esmeralda dear, let's spell it out for the benefit of the city boys et. al.,

NIBBY = nosey, a prurient but not necessarily malicious interest in somebody elses business.
Not to be confused with CRIMINAL, which is always malicious and illegal-- like Bush wiretapping without due process.

I must be nervous because I feel like eating a peanut butter sandwich with potato chips stuffed in between and washing it all down with a beer...

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on August 8, 2006 at 10:47 PM

That's what you eat when you are nervous? That sounds like a bad chase of the 'munchies'

Posted by Domingo on August 8, 2006 at 10:45 PM

I should probably patent that little saying, huh?~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Hi Chicken!

93.85% in lamont by 3.4%...we are almost home..

pugs are gonna say lamont didn't win by much and the vote said nothing about the war...

More funniness: local reporters are saying no one is at Lieberman HQ now except for reporters.

good grief - ok I think C-span is going live again.....

sigh...after 3 years on here and you all don't believe me. Really, the results will remain constant.

hartford the third largest city is all in now and went for lamont by 3 points...i think pam is beginning to worm about that dance floor...

Re: Posted by jen on August 8, 2006 at 10:28 PM

Maybe this is the new beginning. I know we all hope so!

Next time, I'll bring a bottle of champagne.

:)

pugs are gonna say lamont didn't win by much and the vote said nothing about the war...
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They would say that even if Lamont won by 50%. Pugs find a way to spin any news that isn't favorable to them.

Hi, fade. And we gotta keep pullin, momma, so the kids will have a country.

i remember jessie jackson's speach in the 70's moving me to the core. i wonder what he's gonna say tonight?

Kristen - yep - that's what I eat when I get nervous or have been a very very bad girl....

Update: 93% in, 52%-48% for Lamont - this is a 8,400-vote margin.

****

Yep, it's just about over. The 4% margin is holding.

Go Lamont!

Posted by 1234 on August 8, 2006 at 10:53 PM

By Lamont winning ALOT will have been said about the war and about incumbents that think they deserve to retain their jobs just because they think they should no matter what their record has been.

Posted by lavndrblue on August 8, 2006 at 10:51 PM

Do you post as lavndrwmon also? Are you still going to try and make it to Amy K's rally Thursday?

94.39 in lamont by 3.46

Jacq, I believe you! I gave a sigh of relief when you wrote that.

1234 - screw the Republicans = tonight it's our night.

Down goes the first chickenhawk. May he only be the first of many...nay nay..may he be the first of them ALL!

Texas stuff: Cindy is back in Crawford-- bought some land, she did! And God bless her for it! Mr. G. and I are going to try to go up like we did last year, but the heat is a bit of a health issue for him-- more so this year for some reason. Crawford is only about 90 miles from us, as some of the old-timers may remember.

i hope so too, dear paul!

Posted by Domingo on August 8, 2006 at 10:45 PM

That's VERY interesting, seeing as how "Pajamas Media" was one of the biggest right wing MEGA sites in the "innernetz" (which consists of a series of tubes).

They had some "issues" and needed a MAJOR re-organization including dropping some sites.

Atrios and others are all over this. There seems to be a connection with the "Leaker" of the Monica phone calls involved (hint, IT'S HIS MOTHER!!)

So, Tweety using PJ's to smear intelligent people would be like ME calling Tweety "informed"

The irony is, (for lack of a better word),

IRONIC (or a DROIDIAN SLIP).

Posted by rjsnj on August 8, 2006 at 10:54 PM

But we know better, don't we? Then when we take back the house this fall, they will be wringing their greedy fat fists.

Hi Jen, big night...busy, busy...next time you pass out huggs I sure would like one. I'm always around.

Precincts Reporting: 94.39%

# votes %
Lieberman 127,249 48.27
Lamont 136,353 51.73

we're awaiting Lieberjoe's non-concession concession monologue. should be sleep inducing. i'd switch parties for Joe. you bet.

95: 51/48

Posted by RoseZ on August 8, 2006 at 10:58 PM

Thank you, Rose. ;D

Posted by lavndrblue on August 8, 2006 at 10:57 PM

i suppose we're in a new era now, but ALOT used to be A LANDSLIDE...times change, so i suppose now, if there doesn't have to be a recount...it's a lot. thanks, lav

Fox News said the bloging far left has taken over the party. That isn't us is it?

{{{{LSHD}}}}}, I'm not Jen but I'll pass out the hug all the same. :)

rjsnj, I don't think so, not this time. The Lamont campaign was a HUGE underdog. The blogosphere ( Ihate that term) now has some street cred. This will force EVERY incumbent to re-examine, and thats all good stuff. Also, it's a referendum on this ridiculous, wasteful war, and that's all good stuff. Sure, they'll spin like crazy, but good jounalists will keep their feet to the fire...

Esmeralda, are you saying I can pop the cork on that new bottle of Texas Red? Is it time yet?
Holy cow, why don't they CALL it????

U.S. Senate - - Dem Primary

706 of 748 Precincts Reporting - 94.39%

Lamont 136,353 51.73
Lieberman 127,249 48.27

Lieberman is going to speak........

Posted by letshelpdean on August 8, 2006 at 10:58 PM I'm always around.

Yes {{you}} are. :)

i hope so too, dear paul!

Lieberman at podium. Could this be concession?

Lieberman is taking the podium

no, he won't conceed Rose.

I'm not dancing yet, MommaG. Give it til 100%.

(even if I know I'm correct)

if we win, savor and celebrate for a bit...it is way to neurotic to start worrying about what the other side will say...who cares...a big bush supporter goes down to a complete unknown...because alot of lefties were pissed off and did some hard work....drink it in.

i wish it had stayed steady when mean jean was running against hackett. he'd have won. oh well, if wishes were horses, i'd be riding.

Lieberman is on the podium........

Go away Joe, Go away Joe...they are chanting....

ahahahahahah

Posted by Roxie on August 8, 2006 at 11:00 PM

fox nes is afraid that with the pugs gone they'll be irrelevant!

Folks it is over - Lamont has won!!!!

UPDATE: THE LOCAL CBS AFFILIATE CALLED THE RACE FOR LAMONT. In addition, Chris Bowers is going to call it for Lamont as well, figuring he only needs 29% of the remaining vote to win.

NED WILL BE DOWNSTAIRS IN 20 MINUTES.

Tim Tagaris said that Lieberman will be going through with his independent run.

Lieberman is now on TV.

Fox News said the bloging far left has taken over the party. That isn't us is it?
Posted by Roxie on August 8, 2006 at 11:00 PM

Why yes Roxie - yes I think that's us....hehehe

joe speaks: crowd chants go joe:
joe makes it official with a chuckle

Posted by Roxie on August 8, 2006 at 11:00 PM Fox News said the bloging far left has taken over the party. That isn't us is it?

I'm way too far left for the far left. Those people are conservatives.

Hi Kristen...a 3000 mile hugg is super...back to you from the Grand Strand.

Kristen, He did!

Lieberman has congradulated Lamont...

Lamont to speak in 15 minutes.

95.32 in and lamont up by 3.84.

well, maybe he just conceeded the primary and he is going to switch to Independent.

sigh...after 3 years on here and you all don't believe me. Really, the results will remain constant.

Posted by Esmeralda on August 8, 2006 at 10:54 PM

I believe, I believe...and am getting ready to join Pam in her worm dance down here in Georgia :)

Joe called Ned and congratulated him......but he is going to run as an Independent in November....

Joe Lieberman conceded and will run as an independent.

I heard that Rose! Just about fell out of my chair, I thought he would wait until every vote was counted!

this is such a thrill...congrats ned and everyone else should pat themselves on the back!

boiler man

Lieberman is going ahead with his independent run. I'm listening to him on the radio. These chickenhawks never give up--their sense of entitlement.

joe already slamming ned. the man has no shame

well old joe was on the good side of alot of issues. but he folded during the cheney debate, kissed bush and dissed bill over the blue dress and went way too far on the war....now he has to pay the piper...

My Lord!

What a sore looser.

:(

Sloppy Joe has given the voters of Connecticut NOT ONE NEW policy idea in this campaign.

Pajamas Media

He wants to unite, not divide. Ummm, how does running as an independent accomplish that?

Malloy announced Joe conceeded. Cynthia is out of the game.

Lamont supporters ready for a party

Richard Stover, a 64-year-old retired union electrician, came from the suburbs of Detroit to cheer Lamont on.

"I like what he stands for," Stover said.

The key issue for Stover — the war in Iraq. Lamont wants to bring the troops home — so does Stover.

Peter Crane, 36, of New Hartford, said he supports Lamont because the Greenwich businessman proves that "liberal" is not a bad word.

"He is a guy who is not afraid to call himself liberal. The reason this country is so great is because of liberals like FDR and JFK, who wanted to make a better future for our kids."

LieberWhiner on TV whining about Lamont.

He can't even be gracious. So, he will run as an Independent. He will lose.

People are fed up Joe Loser - they are fed up with you and your Bush behind kissing.

Shut up already Joe ... you lost!

I think that peanut butter sandwich just lost its appeal...I can not stand Joe..too think his votes and his support of a losing war has cost us so much and all those poor families who have lost loved ones - oh he just makes me so mad..

so we are sick of the partisanship in Washington and Joe's solution is to not reach across the aisle but rather to climb right on those Repugs laps!

Congrats NED! Now the real work begins....

Pam are you doing the worm dance now?

Was that a sore looser concession speech?

jen,

a state senate and a congressional district are different. The last two counties for 2nd OH were heavy repug. I think I predicted to wait til the end on that race, knowing which counties were left.

hi {{esme!}} is it true padgett can't run?

hi {{larry!}} and {{bruno}}

WWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Buh Bye, SCHMO.

Mr INDEPENDENT!

Sloppy Joe ran a negative campaign, but said his opponent was
"PARTISAN".

"can not and will not let that stand"!

what is Liebermans problem, when will he get it - will he ever understand

"tomorrow we will file the paper work with the election"

LIE (ber) MAN CONCEDES!! C-SPAN NOW!!!

So Joe's idea of non partisan politics is to switch parties rather than support the choice of his Ct. voters.

whine on Joe.

Hubby just turned the sore loser off. This should be a lesson to the kids on how not to act when someone happens to do a better job than you do.

He's toast. He won't win under Independent ticket.

this is indeed a first. never before have i heard a triumphant concession speech

i don't think ol' joe is gonna get much financial support from dems, but ned sure will. i'd watch which way the clintons fall on this though, bill's gonna have to try to save face somehow.

Well, tonight was fun, wasn't it? Now we have our real work cut out for us in November. This is certainly not a time to sit idle. Get the checkbooks ready because I don't think LIEberman will give his left over money back to the democrats.

I just heard a cork or two fly!

Woo-hoo! Dancing in her jammies!

What a frickn' cry baby - he has no class

Real Democrats are taking over now!
Sloppy Joe is about to get beat up over CAFTA.

Lieberman is truly amazing...he is now using the word Progressive and asking Connecticut to send him back to Washington as an Independent.

He is not a progressive. And yes, tomorrow is a new day...FOR PROGRESSIVE NETROOTS!!

mushmouth is a sore loserman after all!

Posted by Kristen on August 8, 2006 at 11:08 PM so we are sick of the partisanship in Washington and Joe's solution is to not reach across the aisle but rather to climb right on those Repugs laps!

And diss his own party at the same time.

that fool actually is sticking with his claim that his site was hacked when we all know that his hosting company's servers crashed.

WoW, it's hard to keep up with you guys tonigt...it this a traveling party? Lizzy, what's the latest on Ned?

{{{{HHUUUGGGGSSSS}}} to all

Posted by rjsnj on August 8, 2006 at 11:03 PM

Thank GOD! NOW I'm going to hit that wine! And Lieberman can dine on DONKEY BUTT!

For an excellent perspective on what this victory means, look at Mister Mack's 11:01. Tonight we celebrate; tomorrow it's back to work. There are miles to cover between now and November.

Dear hearts, there's no other community on earth where I'd rather have spent this magnificent evening than here with all of you! {{{the whole gang of you}}}

well let joe run, it forces the rest of the democrats like hillary and kerry and reed abd so on to either support their party or not...should set up a great test of character....and we'll beat joe again....

OMG! He's like a homeless person. BEGGING!

" you can go to my website when it is unhacked"

Joe is a loser - he just doesnt know it - I hope everyone knows this isnt over until Nov. We all still have to get behind Lamont and keep working, Now Joe has Rove on his side! The fight isnt over yet.

TRACY - CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A NEW THREAD FOR THE LAMONT SPEECH.

Oh, so Schmo in his CONCESSION speech just PERSONALLY 9FROM HIS OWN MOUTH) claimed that his web site was hacked.

BRING ON THE LAWYERS and see how fast the fat cats run away.

SUE HIS ASS, NED!!!

Yay!

Well, Democrats. I'm off to bed.

Goodnight {{Everyone}}. It was great reading you all.

take care.

P.S. This is Fox News, Joe.

I wonder if Whiney Lieberbaby is going to demand a recount? He didn't want Al Gore have one.

Have a great celebration everyone! I've been blogging on borrowed time and the hubby thinks it is time I call it a night, now that the results are in!

Pam & Lizzy! Congratulations!!!!!

Tracy, can't wait to see the DNC finally reference Ned by name in their endorsement!!! :)

Posted by gregg on August 8, 2006 at 11:13 PM

right on, gregg...

william!

jen,

Toad (that is what I have always called the bitch) can't run due to sore loser law. If Ney withdrawls within a certain 3 day time frame, it will allow the repugs to appoint, therefore not forcing a primary election, which Toad isn't allowed to run in.

so we are sick of the partisanship in Washington and Joe's solution is to not reach across the aisle but rather to climb right on those Repugs laps!
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Joe's solution is to bring the Young Rethugs in to campaign for him. What a total loser! I hope that the Dems kick him off of the committees he is on now that he is filing as an Independent.
I will urge my two Senators to psh for that.

What nerve Joementum has to call himself an independent democrat.

Joe ... you lost and am not man enough to admit it.

Get the winner on! Lamont ... Lamont ... Lamont!!!!

The Clintons will not support Joe if he runs as an independent. Hillary didn't endorse in the primary. Unless Bill wants to repudiate the party, he cannot endorse an independent.

The Republicans are more likely to give Joe their support, which will create an interesting situation since they already have a candidate on the ballot.

Lamont on TV. Bye!

Ned on C- span

Ned's up

GOOD BYE JOE
YOU GOTTA GO,
ME OH MY OH!!!

No, Joe has no class, he will fail in November because Ned Lamont and Connecticut voters just set the tone for the rest of the elections.....NO MORE BS from our elected officials, no more lapdogs, no more!!!

Geez I am so stoked!!!!!

Oh my Lord!

Thank God for a fresh face and hope!

:)

rest well, dorsano

Posted by MommaG on August 8, 2006 at 11:12 PM

hey mommag...don't know you very well but here's a big {{{mommag}}} for ya.

boiler man

Ok - I have got to go to bed - the fight has now begun. We all know now that we can do this. The American people are fed up with the war and the lying bastards that took us there. This is proof that our voices will be heard!

Tonight I can say that I feel very proud. Tomorrow I will hold my head a little higher. My purpose to work harder for the Dems in northern Indiana will be a little easier.

I am so proud to be a Democrat.
I am so proud to be a Liberal.

Keep on Rockn'

..................................................................................

....................NED LAMONT FOR U.S. SENATE...................

..................................................................................

I am soooo glad Ned Lamont won.

Final open thrad for the night above this.

Hey, Pam!

If you see this, I want to thank you for telling me about Ned Lamont.

Tonight has been worth it.

:)

Election officials predicted 40 to 50 percent voter turnout in the primary – a figure considered high for a primary. At 6 p.m. West Hartford recorded 59 percent voter turnout.

GOTV: We've got an election in November!

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on August 8, 2006 at 11:18 PM

g'nite, kathy_in_indiana!

I am soooo glad Ned Lamont won.

Posted by WilliamSchubert on August 8, 2006 at 11:1

where is that baby sound? i was just thinkin' about you!!

i'm so glad too! and glad you come in on e.s.p.

It's a very sad night for Connecticut, Joe understands...why don't the Demo backers ?

Lamont says: It is time to fix Bush failed policy. Time to bring our troops home to a hero's welcome.

Congrats to all the hard workers, campaign staff, volunteers and bloggers who have made this victory for the Progressives possibly.

This is big guys. It really is.

you mean the sound from Lieberman headquarters?

Gott Dammit, I hate fox!

Pam & Lizzy! Congratulations!!!!!

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Here, here!!!! Great job. Congrats to all.

Nevermind,

Whether lieberman runs as an Independent.

lieberman would be better off running as a republican.

As an Independent, lieberman will never be a Democrat or a Liberal.

lieberman has said he was a Liberal. He said he was a Democrat.

If lieberman leaves the Democratic Party he will only be saying that he is a...

POLITICAL OPPORTUNIST AND A HYPOCRITE

lieberman can't have it both ways

The Democrats should celebrate.

If there is one thing that we should all learn from this election is that...

Ordinary Americans have a political voice on the Blogosphere!

Good night all - it looks like the pond scum has arrived - it's time for bed..
I don't know when I'll be back on.. but thanks for sharing this very special night. I love you all.

and PamB - I will email you tomorrow friend.

Fox doesn't understand that bloggers are citizens, and for each blogger supporting Lamont, there were THOuSANDS of citizens who also supported Lamont. The people on the blags are only saying what a lot of people are thinking. I need a Fox Blocker!

great we get to beat delay and joe twice in one year!

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..................................NEW THREAD...............................

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william savor the moment. bush lost tonite.

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on August 8, 2006 at 10:42 PM

I'll try one more time. I'm having FTP problems so if this doesn't work I will fix it tomorrow.

I am a Patriot

what he's gonna say tonight?

Posted by 1234 on August 8, 2006 at 10:55 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will rhyme. BTW, did you know I HATE Jesse's camera hogging?

This is NED'S night, not just another Jesse Camera "face time" crapola-fest. I wish he would just retire and be done with his 15 minutes.

Who died and made HIM the "voice"?

(And I KNOW who died, but Ralph Abernathy, Coleman Young, Andrew Young and a LOT of others did more for the cause than that media whore / extortionist(!)

In the imortal words of that Great Philosopher, the distinguished B. Bunny:

"What a MAROON"

Hi everyone. Glad to see you all. I normally am in bed by now, so I am going to bed, but I wanted to say how great it was that Lamont won.

{{{SChube!!!}}}

did you guys miss the new thread?

dpd...i know jj isn't what he used to be. i know, like some sort of scavanger, he tends to appear when there's either blood or fresh meat. that's why i'm wondering what he has to say.

boiler man

{{{{Jen}}}

Good night all!

{{{schubie}}}that's the one!

sweet dreams

Joe Lieberman's speech was infuriating. He has done so much to hurt this Party and this Country. If he were truly not satisfied with "the way things were going in this country," he would step aside and allow a new voice to be heard on the floor of the United States Senate. We can conclude that he's happy with the way things are going.

After all, he has no coherent idea as to how to approach Iraq. It seems he supports the President's approach. He suggests that he does not support a blank check for Iraq, and yet he says, "we can't leave too soon." He has yet to offer an approach that is different from Bush's. With the top generals suggesting Iraq is on the brink of civil war, it seems a different approach might prove useful. Perhaps temporarily redeploying our troops (while keeping them nearby) to give the Iraqis a chance to fix their problems? Perhaps they could do a better job than we are currently doing. After all, they better understand their own culture, history, and needs than we do. If things started to deteriorate rapidly, we could always go back. If Joe doesn't like this idea, he should have offered a new idea of his own. After all, the Iraq war has been going on for three years. The United States has been paying him to solve our problems, but he has done nothing to solve them.

Joe has had 18 years to control pork barrel spending. This he has failed to do. He has failed to challenge our trade policies with China. He could suggest we pressure the Chinese to sever the tie between the yuan and the dollar.

He could have pressured the president to close existing loopholes within the Internal Revenue code sections pertaining to the international corporate tax structure, but instead Joe has done nothing about it.

He could have pressured the United States government to increase the student loan cap for graduate students. The cap has been constant for the last 5-6 years. He didn't do this, or if he did, he certainly didn't get results. I believe he just gave a speech about compromising to get results.

Well, Joe compromised and we have a record budget deficit, a record trade deficit, record corruption in congress, a President that has repeatedly usurped legislative powers, a bloody insurgency in Iraq ("low grade civil war" -- whatever the hell "low grade" means), a war in the Middle East, record oil prices...

Joe, I think you've compromised the future of this country enough.

For Pam,

scroll down to dance the worm

Dance the Worm--go Pammy!!!

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THERE IS A NEW OPEN THREAD!!!

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The fist rule of ethics is that people/groups/systems are re-spon-sible for their own actions. E.g., if someone hits you, threatened or not they can make a decision to hit back and how they hit back. With knowledge comes an obligation to fix that that was broken among the innocents. Looking at the current situation in the Mid-east, Hezbollah would be responsible for the damage it has caused by terrorizing Isearal by bombing. Israel would be responsible for the damage it has caused by bombing innocents and infrastructure of the Lebanese.

Now getting to the current fighting. Israel intimates that it values human like and abhors collective punishment. Given the ethical basics, Israel must see that 1,000,000 Lebanese citizens whose life has been hurt and may be ruined it must help make these lives whole. A look at the horrific history of the Jews, the Western world has tried to insure that Israel has not been destroyed. And by and large the West has made this happen. This history in a strange sort of way has helped shape the ethical standards for conflicts.

That said, the fighting wing of Hezbollah has become a terrorist by definition. And by definition, Israel has become a terrorist group by its actions against Lebanese.

So, what am I saying? I'm saying that everyone’s re-sponsible for their own actions. That's the definition of re-spon-sible. Responding when faced w/ something. That means that both Israel and Hezbollah have a lot of fixing to do. It just happens that Israel has done a lot more damage during its response to actions against it.

I am troubled that we have not had a more forceful and simple response to the recent London plot. I suggest:

"This administration has failed to catch Bin Laden and defeat Al Qaeda despite five years, the best military, and one-half trillion dollars."

I am troubled that we have not had a more forceful and simple response to the recent London plot. I suggest:

"This administration has failed to catch Bin Laden and defeat Al Qaeda despite five years, the best military, and one-half trillion dollars."

I am troubled that we have not had a more forceful and simple response to the recent London plot. I suggest:

"This administration has failed to catch Bin Laden and defeat Al Qaeda despite five years, the best military, and one-half trillion dollars."